I’ve been taking dating more as a discipline for about 4 year now. I can see where this guy is coming from, but he really has a lot to learn.

For closure reasons, here’s a couple of things I noticed.

Most guys don’t make dates for an actual activity. And I’ll admitt I don’t either, I take the first few dates as more of a ‘making friends time’. But he was taking you there, theroretically to get to know you and let you become comfortable in his precence, but he fucked that up pretty well.

The whole ice-cream eating technique was more of a fun teasing technique. Yet he really did that from the wrong angle. I personally, say, if a chick is eating chips, I’ll say ‘Hey check that out!’ and point, nic a chip, and when she looks around she’ll see me taking a bite. If a guy does this when the girl doesn’t like them, its not cool. Seriously.

The whole car thing was quite sad. Only something that should be used as a joke, and only if the guy can over-emphasise the drama so it actually is funny, and only if chick is already comfortable with his precence.

But a few things I gotta point out. Beef sandwiches no matter how fresh aren’t original

Try to focus more on having fun rather than having an itinery or events.

Most guys in the world would lick a girls boots for the chance to pay for her dinner. This is not cool .

I think women need to ease off their expectations of a guy paying. And if he does pay, offer to pay for the next. This isn’t stereotypical, but personally I don’t believe in buying a woman’s time unless she’s my accountant.

Sometimes I’ll pay just for politeness or a treat, but not in a huge ‘OMG I’M PAYING’ scene, and I don’t trade a payed dinner for sex ;-). If a guy makes a scene, leave, its behaviour that must be punished.

If you’re looking for a more, evolved man, I’d suggest lounges, cocktail bars or places with classy wine. Guys with taste don’t just want beer, beer, beer, beer, beer like the man you’ll find in a pub.