At least you women can get DATES
Hi,
This will be brief. I’m a man and not a very attractive one. I used to approach women since…like 6 years old. Only a few times has the girl felt the same way. In my 20s, I’ve been on less than 4 dates. I get one message a year on online dating sites.
Women like my personality and my confidence is NOT A PROBLEM. So what is?
My looks. Women are just not attracted to below average looking or even average looking guys.
I introduced myself to one girl (not in a nightclub by the way) and she stopped me in the middle to say: “Sorry, you’re not my type”. Which means “Sorry, you’re not in my looks range”.
I’ve been rejected ON SIGHT. I’ve had girls say “EWW” when I say HELLO, or walk straight past me and ignore me.
I did an experiment. I used an unknown male model on a dating profile. And you guessed it. I got like 5 messages a day and I didn’t need to even be confident or have a “good personality”.
My better looking friend gets more women than me. I’ve seen how girls treat goodlooking guys. The problem is, good looking guys have so many options that they can afford to f*ck a girl around, cheat on her, treat her like shit. But a girl would prefer to be treated like shit by male model looking guys until she finds one to treat her right, than to settle down with a homely looking guy.
Another this is MONEY. How many guys say: “I can’t date a girl who still lives with her parents, who has no car, who xyz”? O RLY? Women want resources for their potential offspring, so they seek out guys with good looks = good genetics and “good” money = “good” resources.
Women have a laundtry list that men have to meet:
- He can’t be BALDING
- He can’t be under 5’8.
- He must have a good midface (i.e. nice nose, eyes, mouth).
- He must have a decent masculine chin, jaw, etc.
- He can’t live at home, despite the economy.
- He must be funny, confident…
A man just wants a girl who is attractive and who he gets along with. Women are Looks and Money Hypergamous. Women spend their youth fucking top tier genetics guys who pump and dump them (probably give them 2 bastard kids that he won’t care for), then the woman, once used up and looking past her best, at 31, will now be open to a homely looking guy to provide for her. She will never truely get wet for him, but the cock carrousel that she rode in her 20s moved town.
I made a fake dating profile of a woman and the chat window that came up were too many to sort through.
So the next time you’re on one of your 17 dates per week, spare a thought for the guy that hasn’t had a date since 2011.
Women reject non-male model looking guys ON SIGHT. At least you women still get dates, boyfriends and sex. Most men these days are INCEL (involuntarily celebate), have to date single mums, etc.
This post was submitted by Invisible.
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And they all lived unhappily ever after.
I wasn`t sure to tell you, that this is really not the place. Or that you are either preaching to the choir, or telling it to people who would never admit this to themselves. Or maybe i should mention the other guy who allready said it all, and repeated it until it was chewed and spit out several times.
Or warn you of the oncoming shitstorm you are in for, and tell you to run.
But i think a few ralisations wil lbe better. If you are wiling to listen that is. Take this to heart:
Dating is overrated.
Relationships are overrated.
Sex is higly overrated.
You allready realised that no women will truly ever care for you, and only take you out of desperation, or for money. We have a saying. “A donkey is good too, if you cannot get a horse.” And you will be that donkey.
I suggest you act on that knowledge, do something else with your life, and forget women.
I didn’t bother reading your post, just so you know, but I still have some questions. It’s about your list.
So, you mentioned six demands women have. Would you say that those aren’t SOME of the demands you have on women as well?
So would you be OK with a bald woman? A woman who is not funny or confident? A woman who has a masculine rather than a feminine chin, jaw etc? Or a woman who doesn’t have a nice nose, eyes and mouth?
Because what you wrote after was; “A man only wants a girl who is attractive…”. Does this mean that you think that bald women are attractive, (since it’s a list that ONLY men have to meet).
Just stop whining and complaining. If you’re trying to convince others that men have it worse because of their gender, looks is the last topic that should be brought up.
Honestly stop asking for equality and gtfo, I just read the beginning and stopped, heres an idea go to pua or some other shit. You act like you deserve women when clearly you don’t. You obviously expect a lot from women. You’re complaining about dating when I’m complaining about the rape and abuse so it’s pretty obvious women have it harder.
@star_180: Enough.
Everyone has their own issues… and this is Invisible’s thread. He has his own problems just as you have yours. Its all relative.
As I said to you in another post…..
[@star_180: You do not have the right to dictate who does and who does not post here.. this site is open to both men and women.]
I hatemen.org does not discriminate, and is open to post from men and women. Share your relationship experiences, worst date stories…even words of wisdom to others out there reading I HATE MEN.
This is biology.
Men to have sex with boobs and a vagina and ass. Guys may prefer Kathy Ireland, but they will screw kathy bates if thats all they can get.
Women want to have sex with men they like, whether they be charismatic, hot, or whatever else she likes.
Because men will screw anything that moves and women will not there will be a mismatch. This is biology, just about all mammals go through this with a few exceptions. I really dont know what to tell you.
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The problem is, good looking guys have so many options that they can afford to f*ck a girl around, cheat on her, treat her like shit. But a girl would prefer to be treated like shit by male model looking guys until she finds one to treat her right, than to settle down with a homely looking guy.”
Here we go again. Hot men are so mean, so less hot men are oh so nice. Give me a break! I’ve dated men who were average as well as good looking ones. They all cheat, lie,etc. How they look is inconsequential. Why all this romanticism about men who are less attractive?
A man just wants a girl who is attractive ”
This is from a man who is complaining that women think he’s unattractive.
Women are Looks and Money Hypergamous.”
Men are promiscuous by nature and focused on LOOKS.
Women spend their youth screwing top tier genetics guys who pump and dump them”
Men in general want to pump and dump women. Mostly men dont care about relationships, only sex. Sex sex sex. Most the of the time men are looking for fast, transitory sexual experiences not long lasting commitment.
So the next time you’re on one of your 17 dates per week, spare a thought for the guy that hasn’t had a date since 2011.”
Who is going on all these dates?
Women reject non-male model looking guys ON SIGHT. At least you women still get dates, boyfriends and sex. Most men these days are INCEL (involuntarily celebate), have to date single mums, etc.”
Well, get a hooker.
It boils down to sex anyway.
Op- You seem really desperate and delusional. You seem to think that women under 30 are all attractive, thin hotties who immediately become ugly, fat old bitches the minute they are “over the hill” at age 30. What crazy world do you live in? I see both ugly 19 year old co-eds and stunning 40 year olds everyday. You sound shallow, and again, desperate, which makes women say EWWWWW. No wonder you can’t get dates.
LMAO! You are going to get your ass kicked by life someday, that is for sure! Oh, and men over 30 are pathetic losers – I am only interested in college age hotties who play lacrosse and have access to a 6 digit trust fund. I find men over 30 repulsive. Just being honest.
Bahahahahaha! This is too funny. He says “poor me I’m so ugly and women don’t want me because they are too shallow”, yet he wants a woman who is attractive and he is shallow. I wonder if he’s even tried dating women in his own league or if he just goes for women that are way more attractive than him. That could be the problem. And I agree with honeybunch, men like to play the victim but really most of them cheat and lie no matter what they look like, cute or ugly.
Muzolf – thanks for the heads-up.
btm1 – you didn’t read my post so I won’t read yours.
star_180 – pua is BULLSHIT. PUA just convinces guys to deal with rejection, approach more, be a dancing circus monkey for women, and it gives a woman a big ego seeing a guy doing all this BS just to impress her.
honeybunch – a hooker? that’s what you advise a man who wants a girlfriend and one day, children and a family life? Why don’t you date a woman? See? It’s not helpful, is it?
life sucks sometimes – SHALLOWNESS! Yes, that’s why girls reject me before I speak. Because I “look” shallow! Yes.
agirl – I was talking GENERALLY. I said a man wants an attractive woman …and I actually meant relative to his own attractiveness. And men have lower standards. Women will happily reject men at bars all night long, then complain “where are all the men?”
All of you women:
I’ve approached women that look like JABBA THE HUT. I’ve approached up and down the looks spectrum. One girl was 300 lbs. I got her phone number and then she flaked on me on the phone and advised on clubs to go to WITHOUT HER. One girl, gave me eye contact, I approached her, talked, she let me share her jug of drink, I got her phone number. I called her and she said: “I’m on the train. Ill call you back”. That was last year. I’m still waiting for that call lol.
No. I’ve STOPPED approaching women. Women don’t want a guy that may not have movie star features, but who is kind, loving, caring, easy to get along with, would never beat her, etc. Women don’t give a FUCK.
I’ve stopped going to nightclubs coz they’re sexist scams. Women get in FREE or cheaper than men in the UK and it’s like 1 girl:8 guys. Women act like celebrities in clubs. Women aren’t even there to meet guys. They’re there to sit in their own social circles and get attention. Only hot guys are acceptable.
Women don’t want to be approached by non male model looking guys outside of clubs either. Women pretend to read books, wear glasses, avert their gaze …they basically spend their lives warding off male attention.
I’ve read about women who go on dates NIGHTLY and never eat at home.
The life of an average woman is like that of a male hollywood movie star.
Your welcome Invisible. Hey, i just realised the reason for the name.
I would suggest picking up a hobby or two, not as a distraction, but something that you can truly care for. Other then that, good luck!
I so agree with star 180 and honeybunch and life sucks sometimes. Men come here to whine how they can’t get dates, in other words, sex. Pathetic. Women here have real issues like being beaten, raped, abused emotionally, physically, and sexually yet men whine how they can’t get laid? You got to be kidding me. Oh, by the way Invisible, quit chasing after supermodel types then maybe you would get a date. You sound shallow. Your the only one to blame for the fact you can’t get a date.
Invisbile:
You said you were INCEL. Get a hooker. Problem solved.
“they basically spend their lives warding off male attention.”
Do you think its fun being seen as a piece of ass?
Am I the only one who is wondering if Invisible is R2d2? Just saying.
You are the only one. Its not like men who could never get even a date, much less any relationship are a rare thing, or even a minority.