From his Facebook fan page today : “We found that babies sometimes “drop” then “go back up”…well…last night baby Kiyoshi dropped. Kanae’s tummy became hard for a bit too. Amazing. OBGYN Doctor says that 38 or 39 wks is a perfect, perfect term. At 37 wks yesterday, we are excited and praying that all goes smooth and well.”
Look at this video girls. Look and learn what you choose not to have cause you’re to focused on looks. LEarn from his wife if you want to get that dream guy.
Um R2D2, I, a woman, posted this video for you since you think no woman would ever date a man because he’s not tall and “attractive”. YOU need to learn from this video. YOU need a more positive outlook on life. YOU are the one who insists you’re single because you’re short.
I would much rather date this man than to to date someone like you because his personality is beautiful and just listening to him makes me want to be a more positive person. I actually do find him attractive, but his personality makes him even more attractive.
Also, that’s why I titled it “What does he have that you don’t?”…He has no limbs, yet he’s married to a beautiful woman with a baby due in a few weeks. Obviously, he’s much shorter than you, but would get picked over you because he’s not a shitty person and he doesn’t do that “woe is me” crap you do.
it seems this man’s vice has become his virtue. i’d like to spend a day with him, if only to understand my own problems. he makes me feel as though my problems shouldn’t be. he’s a very inspiring individual if nothing else. my situations as a child seem bearable compared to what he has to go through for his entire life. the only issue i have is that his problems are easily seen. pity is quickly shown to those with an obvious disability. when someone is beaten nearly to death, the capability of their arms and legs is mostly considered by men. i hate to say, survival of the fittest does not apply to this person. he has been shown pity his entire life and does not know what it means to not be “good enough”, to constantly be challenged by men around him. he has used his disability in a manner that shows no remorse for himself. he’s also has the characteristics that women go for. hmm, a man who has no arms or legs lulled someone with words, not surprising. when someone pisses him off he uses words but when someone pisses me off i use my fists, do you wonder why that is? while he talks someone down, women are impressed. while i beat someone down, women are disgusted. there is no winning with women, just do as they say and you’re “not bad”.
^^^Are you kidding me? He was shunned as a child and made fun of. He said he was suicidal.
Given that he’s such a positive person, I highly doubt he talks down to people, at least not for the hell of it. I guarantee you if he had a horrible attitude, no one would want to be around him.
Pity? You want people to feel sorry for you? You’re jealous that he turned a negative into a positive and isn’t feeling bad about himself? You really think he had to sweet talk his wife to win her over? You really know nothing about women at all.
I’m personally disgusted by your personality alone, so even you look like Justin Timberlake, I’d pass.
All you guys talk about is how less attractive men can’t get the time of day, but a man with no limbs was able to charm a woman because he was “pitied” and can just use his words?
You can’t win because you don’t want to. You’d rather sit around complaining and finding every reason in the world why someone else has a better chance than you.
Hmm, interesting debate going on, with how disabilites might affect your love life. Unfortunetly, once again, the company firewall makes it impossible for me to see what is really going on.
Someone care to give me a short summary of the video? Just two sentences would be enough.
“He was shunned as a child and made fun of. He said he was suicidal.”
no different from me.
“Given that he’s such a positive person, I highly doubt he talks down to people, at least not for the hell of it.”
i wouldn’t imagine he talks down to people either.
“Pity? You want people to feel sorry for you?”
i don’t accept pity and it seems he is the same as me as far as pity is concerned.
“You’re jealous that he turned a negative into a positive and isn’t feeling bad about himself?”
“it seems this man’s vice has become his virtue.” i admire this man and would like to be more like him. is that more pleasing for you to read?
“You really think he had to sweet talk his wife to win her over?”
i never said that. i’m actually very happy for both of them.
“You really know nothing about women at all.”
you really know nothing about understanding others’ point of view.
“I’m personally disgusted by your personality alone, so even if you look like Justin Timberlake, I’d pass.”
i’m disgusted by your short sighted opinions of my comments. not everything i say isn’t meant to be an insult. i just prefer to make my personal opinion show all aspects.
“All you guys talk about is how less attractive men can’t get the time of day, but a man with no limbs was able to charm a woman because he was “pitied” and can just use his words?”
i didn’t mention how i was attractive or unattractive and i don’t think he’s married and having a child because of pity. you really must think i’m a piece of shit, though i don’t know why…
“You can’t win because you don’t want to.”
why do you think that?
“You’d rather sit around complaining and finding every reason in the world why someone else has a better chance than you.”
i complain the least out of the people i know personally. i actually dislike listening to others complain because most complaints are brought on by those who complain. no chance taken is better than another unless it’s looked upon by someone who isn’t involved…
if my opinions offend you then just say so, i won’t direct my comments toward you anymore.
@Muzolf
it’s about a very inspiring individual who’s found true love even though he has no arms or legs and was meant to prove to R2D2 that looks don’t matter. it seems to me his problems have more to do with his user name than his looks. i think i’m the new dumbass with the target on him though.
R2D2 probably has chosen his username to reflect on his actual height.
In other words, he is a midget. I can see how that would be a serious handicap. We love to hear success stories from people who overcame all odds stacked against them, but lets face it, most people with all odds stacked against them don`t make it.
Mother nature is cruel, and people arent any better. I can see how he would hate his situation, what i cannot accept is his never ending whining about it. I mean damn, do something about it, or accept the situation and cut your losses. But no, he goes on and on.
zombified-your post started off strong, then turned into
“the only issue i have is that his problems are easily seen. pity is quickly shown to those with an obvious disability.”
and
“he has been shown pity his entire life and does not know what it means to not be “good enough”, to constantly be challenged by men around him.” and
“hmm, a man who has no arms or legs lulled someone with words, not surprising. when someone pisses him off he uses words but when someone pisses me off i use my fists, do you wonder why that is? while he talks someone down, women are impressed. while i beat someone down, women are disgusted. there is no winning with women, just do as they say and you’re “not bad”.”
That kind of contradicts you saying he’s an inspiration by turning around and saying he has it easier with women/people because “he’s had pity his whole life”.
So, if women could *see* you rough childhood/problems, you’d get pity and they’d want you?
Muzolf-Midgets have limbs though. All he has is one small foot connected to where his left thigh would be. But, he doesn’t complain about it.
As far as people with everything stacked against them usually not making it, I agree with that only in the sense that they don’t *make it* when they have a “woe is me” mentality.
Everyone has problems and struggles, whether it’s surviving an armed robbery, having an abusive partner, an incurable disease or a physical handicap.
It’s the ones who fight through it and do the best they can to succeed in life, love (family/friends/significant other) and happiness who *make it*.
@cutiepie
“your post started off strong, then turned into”…
i can understand how you’ve taken much of what i’ve said the wrong way. looking over my first comment, the only ignorant lines i see are “hmm, a man who has no arms or legs lulled someone with words, not surprising.” and “there is no winning with women, just do as they say and you’re “not bad”.” i don’t think this is always the case.
“That kind of contradicts you saying he’s an inspiration by turning around and saying he has it easier with women/people because “he’s had pity his whole life”.”
i’m not trying to imply that pity makes someone’s life easier. i see pity as a burden in disguise.
“So, if women could *see* you rough childhood/problems, you’d get pity and they’d want you?”
no, there are only a few people in my life that i want to know the problems that bother me most. the people i tell these things to are usually very close and trusted friends. i still don’t like being pitied because i feel like it sets limitations to me as a person and that’s what i’m trying to point out when i mentioned him being pitied. i don’t find people who are full of pity for themselves to be attractive so i try not to be this way and it seems he’s the same. not only does he not want people to feel pity for him, he wants people to be inspired by him. that being said, i still think he’s has been and will continue to be shown pity. even i can’t help but to show pity for him… “the only issue i have is that his problems are easily seen. pity is quickly shown to those with an obvious disability.”
zomb-Maybe I’m not understanding the point in pointing out that people have and will continue to show him pity. So what?
I personally don’t pity him because there’s no reason to. He said himself he’s accomplishing more things than the average 25 year old. He can do everything we can do, just in a different way.
My mom had lupus, an incurable liver disease, passed away at 44 three years ago. Sure, people felt bad for her and I hated watching her struggle, but she did everything she wanted to do. She was a nurse, had her own business, was part of the Black Chamber of Commerce and went to nail school on top of being a single parent of three girls.
Pity means nothing unless you feel it for yourself. The word *pity* itself is actually really annoying and all I can think of is *pitiful* lol.
Cutiepie, sure, if we take the above exemple and think it is the rule rather then the exception, wich it is not.
That someone with no limbs could attract a mate is nothing sort of amazing, but we shouldn`t think that this would happen all that much, or it would be all that likely. Yes, it is a good exemple, that even a serious, crippling handicap can be overcome. That doesn`t means you will have what it takes to overcome yours, even if it much lesser. And sometimes it is just a matter of luck.
You continue to tell R2D2 that he misidentified what the problem is. However, the way you tell it, is mostly wrapped in an insult. (Ok, i know, guilty as charged.) Of course he will not listen. And i have heard the “be confident”, “be funny” line a thousand times myself, and i have a suspicion that most women have no clue about the actual reasons themselves.
Back to the point. How do you know, that his complaint isn`t legitimate? He has a handicap, and doesn`t have the shining personality to balance it out. Obviously the above guy had something (And i am not even saying that he might be just rich, or her girl has some wierd fetish.), but what can you do, if you are both unattractive, and you arent all that interesting of a person either?
Not anyone is able to change to the better. Sometimes all the good intentions and willingness to work on yourself is not enough to overcome your own nature. And R2D2 is probably not even able to see past his physical appearance. I would go so far as to say, his main problem might not even be women, but the fact that he himself cannot really like himself as he is.
R2D2 has gone on other women’s posts, including mine, saying that we’ve had issues because we “demand the tallest and most handsome man” instead of either showing understanding or just being quiet altogether, so I don’t feel bad about “insulting” him.
I’m not saying that this particular example is the rule, but I am saying that no one is gonna want someone who’s always whining about his insecurities.
Personality is important. It’s not just about being confident and funny, it’s about being a good person and making people comfortable around you. Who wants to be around someone who’s always negative?
Now, r2d2 said he’s not ugly, just short. He never (at least not where I read) mentioned his personality. It was all about appearance, which is why I posted this video. I did it to point out that this guy has a great personality that others love…something r2d2 appears to lack.
If someone is both *ugly*(ugly to one person may be cute to someone else) and not an *interesting*(one’s interests may seem boring to one person but fun to another) person, then he/she knows why they have no luck in relationships.
I mean, who wants to date someone who’s boring (you don’t share the same interests)? Do you? This person should find a hobby or join an organization where conversation skills can build. Find people who share your interests and don’t think you’re boring.
I have big, curly hair, and a lot of guys seem to like it straight better. Well, I could say I’m doomed because *no one* will date a Black girl who doesn’t straighten her hair, but I love my hair. I do what I want, and if a guy doesn’t want me because I rarely straighten it, then o well.
I’m skinny (5’7 120 lbs) and I think a lot of guys do like bigger women. Does that mean I’m doomed? No.
I’m legally blind in one eye, did that stop me from reading better than everyone in the class? Nope. Will I never date because of it? No.
Don’t get me wrong, I think I’m gorgeous, but if I focused on what others may not like, then I would fail. I do get a lot of attention from men, but if they found out I was really insecure and negative, they’d run in the other direction.
Now, someone like my cousin who is mentally handicapped (27 years old with toddler mentality) and can’t take care of herself, of course she’s not going to have the chance to be in a relationship. She doesn’t even know what she’s doing half the time and has to be monitored 24/7. But, I’m sure she knows her family loves her, and that’s all the love she needs.
If there’s something you CAN improve on, then do it. In my experience, there’s always room for improvement. If you give and say there’s nothing you can do, that’s on you.
“I am saying that no one is gonna want someone who’s always whining about his insecurities.”
I agree, like i said. He is not helping with his own situation. But if he is indeed a midget, then there is something that needs to be considered. Especially coming from you, who is attractive, i am not sure you can really see his position.
Especially, since i think there is one thing you are missing here.
We are talking about dating, and relationships. Regardless of any changes in geneder relations. Men are expected to be the ones who approach a woman. You, can just sit, and if there is anyone who shows an interest, you can expect it to be shown. Especially if you are attractive, down to the level where you would need to be really ugly to have no interest at all.
Imagine if you were a man, with something that is offputting to most women. You, are the one who has to approach the other party. And if he is indeed a midget, i can tell you, that he would have to try to approach hundreads, or thousands of women before he found anyone.
And with the sexual harassment hystaria in the west, and being called a creep and other various reactions he might have gotten… well, lets just say i would have a grim outlook too.
(Okay, okay, i know i have a grim outlook anyway.)
Lets just say i at least partially understand him. Luckily i am much less fixed on relationships and on dating and girls in general. Othervise, i would have probably hanged myself by now. And i am not a midget! Nor obese or anything.
Well, I’m not perfect. No one is. Yes, I’m definitely considered attractive, but that doesn’t mean I’m everyone’s type.
Even with the hair situation, in the Black community in the US anyway, most women straighten their hair or wear extentions. Black guys (and women) have looked at me funny when they see my big hair. I don’t know if they’re admiring or thinking it’s ugly lol. Black men definitely seem to prefer straight or weaved hair. Yeah, a Black guy will say I’m sexy, but look at my hair like “is she gonna straighten it?”.
I seem to attract white men more, which is no problem, and my friend told me I should straighten my hair and not wrap it up because “if he can’t run his fingers through it, he’ll get scared” lol.
Anyway, r2d2 didn’t say he was a midget, but if he is I would’ve recommended he try for shorter women.
He said that he can’t date short women either because they “demand even taller men, like 7 feet” lol. Who demands a 7 foot tall man? How many men even get that tall? The guy I’m into is like 5’9. My mom was taller than him lol.
Yes, I’m attractive, but that doesn’t mean I’m treated special. If anything, it’s been difficult. I was molested by my sisters brother from age 3-9. I was picked on in school, including boys pulling my pony tails, 2 boys pushing me face first in a mud puddle and a boy throwing a stick at me. My cousin’s boyfriend tried to have sex with me 3 times, and when I finally told her, he lied and she said “if you were a nornal 16-17 year old girl, none of this would’ve happened”. I was 16-17 and was 34…
When I was a sophomore in highschool, this guy would call me “Tyra Banks wannabe” and another guy tried to touch me during lab, and when I stopped him, he said I was stuck up.
When I was a cashier, I put the guy’s change in his hand and he grabbed my upper arm (bicep?) and tried to pull me over the counter. I snatched my arm away and flattened myself against the cig display, and he still kept trying to grab at me, but was to short to reach.
I was walking home one day and this guy passed me and parked in my driveway, so I thought he was waiting on someone there (it’s a 4-person building), but when I got to the driveway, he said “I just wanted to say you’re beautiful”…he knew where I lived! I never saw him before.<—-That…is what's creepy.
So, yeah everyone has issues, and being the *cute, prissy girl* isn't always as easy as everyone thinks.
@cutiepie
“Maybe I’m not understanding the point in pointing out that people have and will continue to show him pity. So what?”
he’ll always be treated different from other people. you can look at it in a good way or bad, it’s up to you i guess.
“I personally don’t pity him because there’s no reason to. He said himself he’s accomplishing more things than the average 25 year old. He can do everything we can do, just in a different way.”
i can’t help but to feel sorry for him and others like him. i wouldn’t blame him if he had a crappy attitude and a bad outlook on life, i probably would. i find a sense of accomplishment and self-worth by working with my hands and don’t know how i’d react if i lost or never had them.
i’m sorry that your mother died from a disease but it’s nice that you think back on her accomplishments. my mother died a little over a year ago at 50 from brain cancer. it started with seizures at work. after many doctor visits a hell of a lot of money spent she went through surgery to remove a large tumor from her brain. a surgery that usually takes four hours only took two and everything seemed to have went well. she then move out of state away from her family to be with her husband who i think’s an asshole and started chemotherapy there. her body got frail, her hair seemed like wire and eventually the seizures started again. i visited her a week before she past away. the left side of her body was paralysed because of the seizures and she couldn’t talk. her husband, my sister and the nurses warned that she may not remember/recognise me. when she was healthy she was the greatest person to be around but it’s hard to remember after watching her die the way she did.
by the way i have no problem with your argument against R2D2. i’ve got a short, chubby, balding friend that has not problem getting dates.
I see, you are getting the other end of the spectrum, when you are getting too much attention, and most of it from socially ankward, or agressive people. I can see how that can be unpleasant, ankward, or outright scary.
As for R2D2, like i said, i agree that his attitude is a problem. And i think we allready wasted far too many words on him. He is using the site mostly in write only mode it seems.
“Bullying in scool.”
I guess it is really worst over the sea. Here if any of the boys would have done anything like that to a girl, he would have quickly found himself in the isolation room. Nobody cared if a boy was beaten up, in fact, the teachers would usually balme the victims.
“Also, I get guys who want to fuck me, not guys who actually want to settle down and have a family.”
Yeah, we can all thank the “sexual revolution” for the fucked up attitudes we have today. That is, so far as dating, relationships, and eventually marriage/long term partnership/family planning goes in the west.
Where i live i got a load of other problems to worry about, so even if i had anyone willing to put up with me, and plan a family. The question remains.: “What kind of future would those children face in a country that is on a slow slide to hell?”
From his Facebook fan page today : “We found that babies sometimes “drop” then “go back up”…well…last night baby Kiyoshi dropped. Kanae’s tummy became hard for a bit too. Amazing. OBGYN Doctor says that 38 or 39 wks is a perfect, perfect term. At 37 wks yesterday, we are excited and praying that all goes smooth and well.”
Look at this video girls. Look and learn what you choose not to have cause you’re to focused on looks. LEarn from his wife if you want to get that dream guy.
Um R2D2, I, a woman, posted this video for you since you think no woman would ever date a man because he’s not tall and “attractive”. YOU need to learn from this video. YOU need a more positive outlook on life. YOU are the one who insists you’re single because you’re short.
I would much rather date this man than to to date someone like you because his personality is beautiful and just listening to him makes me want to be a more positive person. I actually do find him attractive, but his personality makes him even more attractive.
Also, that’s why I titled it “What does he have that you don’t?”…He has no limbs, yet he’s married to a beautiful woman with a baby due in a few weeks. Obviously, he’s much shorter than you, but would get picked over you because he’s not a shitty person and he doesn’t do that “woe is me” crap you do.
But, that just flew right over your head.
it seems this man’s vice has become his virtue. i’d like to spend a day with him, if only to understand my own problems. he makes me feel as though my problems shouldn’t be. he’s a very inspiring individual if nothing else. my situations as a child seem bearable compared to what he has to go through for his entire life. the only issue i have is that his problems are easily seen. pity is quickly shown to those with an obvious disability. when someone is beaten nearly to death, the capability of their arms and legs is mostly considered by men. i hate to say, survival of the fittest does not apply to this person. he has been shown pity his entire life and does not know what it means to not be “good enough”, to constantly be challenged by men around him. he has used his disability in a manner that shows no remorse for himself. he’s also has the characteristics that women go for. hmm, a man who has no arms or legs lulled someone with words, not surprising. when someone pisses him off he uses words but when someone pisses me off i use my fists, do you wonder why that is? while he talks someone down, women are impressed. while i beat someone down, women are disgusted. there is no winning with women, just do as they say and you’re “not bad”.
^^^Are you kidding me? He was shunned as a child and made fun of. He said he was suicidal.
Given that he’s such a positive person, I highly doubt he talks down to people, at least not for the hell of it. I guarantee you if he had a horrible attitude, no one would want to be around him.
Pity? You want people to feel sorry for you? You’re jealous that he turned a negative into a positive and isn’t feeling bad about himself? You really think he had to sweet talk his wife to win her over? You really know nothing about women at all.
I’m personally disgusted by your personality alone, so even you look like Justin Timberlake, I’d pass.
All you guys talk about is how less attractive men can’t get the time of day, but a man with no limbs was able to charm a woman because he was “pitied” and can just use his words?
You can’t win because you don’t want to. You’d rather sit around complaining and finding every reason in the world why someone else has a better chance than you.
Hmm, interesting debate going on, with how disabilites might affect your love life. Unfortunetly, once again, the company firewall makes it impossible for me to see what is really going on.
Someone care to give me a short summary of the video? Just two sentences would be enough.
“He was shunned as a child and made fun of. He said he was suicidal.”
no different from me.
“Given that he’s such a positive person, I highly doubt he talks down to people, at least not for the hell of it.”
i wouldn’t imagine he talks down to people either.
“Pity? You want people to feel sorry for you?”
i don’t accept pity and it seems he is the same as me as far as pity is concerned.
“You’re jealous that he turned a negative into a positive and isn’t feeling bad about himself?”
“it seems this man’s vice has become his virtue.” i admire this man and would like to be more like him. is that more pleasing for you to read?
“You really think he had to sweet talk his wife to win her over?”
i never said that. i’m actually very happy for both of them.
“You really know nothing about women at all.”
you really know nothing about understanding others’ point of view.
“I’m personally disgusted by your personality alone, so even if you look like Justin Timberlake, I’d pass.”
i’m disgusted by your short sighted opinions of my comments. not everything i say isn’t meant to be an insult. i just prefer to make my personal opinion show all aspects.
“All you guys talk about is how less attractive men can’t get the time of day, but a man with no limbs was able to charm a woman because he was “pitied” and can just use his words?”
i didn’t mention how i was attractive or unattractive and i don’t think he’s married and having a child because of pity. you really must think i’m a piece of shit, though i don’t know why…
“You can’t win because you don’t want to.”
why do you think that?
“You’d rather sit around complaining and finding every reason in the world why someone else has a better chance than you.”
i complain the least out of the people i know personally. i actually dislike listening to others complain because most complaints are brought on by those who complain. no chance taken is better than another unless it’s looked upon by someone who isn’t involved…
if my opinions offend you then just say so, i won’t direct my comments toward you anymore.
@Muzolf
it’s about a very inspiring individual who’s found true love even though he has no arms or legs and was meant to prove to R2D2 that looks don’t matter. it seems to me his problems have more to do with his user name than his looks. i think i’m the new dumbass with the target on him though.
I see.
R2D2 probably has chosen his username to reflect on his actual height.
In other words, he is a midget. I can see how that would be a serious handicap. We love to hear success stories from people who overcame all odds stacked against them, but lets face it, most people with all odds stacked against them don`t make it.
Mother nature is cruel, and people arent any better. I can see how he would hate his situation, what i cannot accept is his never ending whining about it. I mean damn, do something about it, or accept the situation and cut your losses. But no, he goes on and on.
zombified-your post started off strong, then turned into
“the only issue i have is that his problems are easily seen. pity is quickly shown to those with an obvious disability.”
and
“he has been shown pity his entire life and does not know what it means to not be “good enough”, to constantly be challenged by men around him.” and
“hmm, a man who has no arms or legs lulled someone with words, not surprising. when someone pisses him off he uses words but when someone pisses me off i use my fists, do you wonder why that is? while he talks someone down, women are impressed. while i beat someone down, women are disgusted. there is no winning with women, just do as they say and you’re “not bad”.”
That kind of contradicts you saying he’s an inspiration by turning around and saying he has it easier with women/people because “he’s had pity his whole life”.
So, if women could *see* you rough childhood/problems, you’d get pity and they’d want you?
Muzolf-Midgets have limbs though. All he has is one small foot connected to where his left thigh would be. But, he doesn’t complain about it.
As far as people with everything stacked against them usually not making it, I agree with that only in the sense that they don’t *make it* when they have a “woe is me” mentality.
Everyone has problems and struggles, whether it’s surviving an armed robbery, having an abusive partner, an incurable disease or a physical handicap.
It’s the ones who fight through it and do the best they can to succeed in life, love (family/friends/significant other) and happiness who *make it*.
@cutiepie
“your post started off strong, then turned into”…
i can understand how you’ve taken much of what i’ve said the wrong way. looking over my first comment, the only ignorant lines i see are “hmm, a man who has no arms or legs lulled someone with words, not surprising.” and “there is no winning with women, just do as they say and you’re “not bad”.” i don’t think this is always the case.
“That kind of contradicts you saying he’s an inspiration by turning around and saying he has it easier with women/people because “he’s had pity his whole life”.”
i’m not trying to imply that pity makes someone’s life easier. i see pity as a burden in disguise.
“So, if women could *see* you rough childhood/problems, you’d get pity and they’d want you?”
no, there are only a few people in my life that i want to know the problems that bother me most. the people i tell these things to are usually very close and trusted friends. i still don’t like being pitied because i feel like it sets limitations to me as a person and that’s what i’m trying to point out when i mentioned him being pitied. i don’t find people who are full of pity for themselves to be attractive so i try not to be this way and it seems he’s the same. not only does he not want people to feel pity for him, he wants people to be inspired by him. that being said, i still think he’s has been and will continue to be shown pity. even i can’t help but to show pity for him… “the only issue i have is that his problems are easily seen. pity is quickly shown to those with an obvious disability.”
zomb-Maybe I’m not understanding the point in pointing out that people have and will continue to show him pity. So what?
I personally don’t pity him because there’s no reason to. He said himself he’s accomplishing more things than the average 25 year old. He can do everything we can do, just in a different way.
My mom had lupus, an incurable liver disease, passed away at 44 three years ago. Sure, people felt bad for her and I hated watching her struggle, but she did everything she wanted to do. She was a nurse, had her own business, was part of the Black Chamber of Commerce and went to nail school on top of being a single parent of three girls.
Pity means nothing unless you feel it for yourself. The word *pity* itself is actually really annoying and all I can think of is *pitiful* lol.
Cutiepie, sure, if we take the above exemple and think it is the rule rather then the exception, wich it is not.
That someone with no limbs could attract a mate is nothing sort of amazing, but we shouldn`t think that this would happen all that much, or it would be all that likely. Yes, it is a good exemple, that even a serious, crippling handicap can be overcome. That doesn`t means you will have what it takes to overcome yours, even if it much lesser. And sometimes it is just a matter of luck.
You continue to tell R2D2 that he misidentified what the problem is. However, the way you tell it, is mostly wrapped in an insult. (Ok, i know, guilty as charged.) Of course he will not listen. And i have heard the “be confident”, “be funny” line a thousand times myself, and i have a suspicion that most women have no clue about the actual reasons themselves.
Back to the point. How do you know, that his complaint isn`t legitimate? He has a handicap, and doesn`t have the shining personality to balance it out. Obviously the above guy had something (And i am not even saying that he might be just rich, or her girl has some wierd fetish.), but what can you do, if you are both unattractive, and you arent all that interesting of a person either?
Not anyone is able to change to the better. Sometimes all the good intentions and willingness to work on yourself is not enough to overcome your own nature. And R2D2 is probably not even able to see past his physical appearance. I would go so far as to say, his main problem might not even be women, but the fact that he himself cannot really like himself as he is.
R2D2 has gone on other women’s posts, including mine, saying that we’ve had issues because we “demand the tallest and most handsome man” instead of either showing understanding or just being quiet altogether, so I don’t feel bad about “insulting” him.
I’m not saying that this particular example is the rule, but I am saying that no one is gonna want someone who’s always whining about his insecurities.
Personality is important. It’s not just about being confident and funny, it’s about being a good person and making people comfortable around you. Who wants to be around someone who’s always negative?
Now, r2d2 said he’s not ugly, just short. He never (at least not where I read) mentioned his personality. It was all about appearance, which is why I posted this video. I did it to point out that this guy has a great personality that others love…something r2d2 appears to lack.
If someone is both *ugly*(ugly to one person may be cute to someone else) and not an *interesting*(one’s interests may seem boring to one person but fun to another) person, then he/she knows why they have no luck in relationships.
I mean, who wants to date someone who’s boring (you don’t share the same interests)? Do you? This person should find a hobby or join an organization where conversation skills can build. Find people who share your interests and don’t think you’re boring.
I have big, curly hair, and a lot of guys seem to like it straight better. Well, I could say I’m doomed because *no one* will date a Black girl who doesn’t straighten her hair, but I love my hair. I do what I want, and if a guy doesn’t want me because I rarely straighten it, then o well.
I’m skinny (5’7 120 lbs) and I think a lot of guys do like bigger women. Does that mean I’m doomed? No.
I’m legally blind in one eye, did that stop me from reading better than everyone in the class? Nope. Will I never date because of it? No.
Don’t get me wrong, I think I’m gorgeous, but if I focused on what others may not like, then I would fail. I do get a lot of attention from men, but if they found out I was really insecure and negative, they’d run in the other direction.
Now, someone like my cousin who is mentally handicapped (27 years old with toddler mentality) and can’t take care of herself, of course she’s not going to have the chance to be in a relationship. She doesn’t even know what she’s doing half the time and has to be monitored 24/7. But, I’m sure she knows her family loves her, and that’s all the love she needs.
If there’s something you CAN improve on, then do it. In my experience, there’s always room for improvement. If you give and say there’s nothing you can do, that’s on you.
“I am saying that no one is gonna want someone who’s always whining about his insecurities.”
I agree, like i said. He is not helping with his own situation. But if he is indeed a midget, then there is something that needs to be considered. Especially coming from you, who is attractive, i am not sure you can really see his position.
Especially, since i think there is one thing you are missing here.
We are talking about dating, and relationships. Regardless of any changes in geneder relations. Men are expected to be the ones who approach a woman. You, can just sit, and if there is anyone who shows an interest, you can expect it to be shown. Especially if you are attractive, down to the level where you would need to be really ugly to have no interest at all.
Imagine if you were a man, with something that is offputting to most women. You, are the one who has to approach the other party. And if he is indeed a midget, i can tell you, that he would have to try to approach hundreads, or thousands of women before he found anyone.
And with the sexual harassment hystaria in the west, and being called a creep and other various reactions he might have gotten… well, lets just say i would have a grim outlook too.
(Okay, okay, i know i have a grim outlook anyway.)
Lets just say i at least partially understand him. Luckily i am much less fixed on relationships and on dating and girls in general. Othervise, i would have probably hanged myself by now. And i am not a midget! Nor obese or anything.
Well, I’m not perfect. No one is. Yes, I’m definitely considered attractive, but that doesn’t mean I’m everyone’s type.
Even with the hair situation, in the Black community in the US anyway, most women straighten their hair or wear extentions. Black guys (and women) have looked at me funny when they see my big hair. I don’t know if they’re admiring or thinking it’s ugly lol. Black men definitely seem to prefer straight or weaved hair. Yeah, a Black guy will say I’m sexy, but look at my hair like “is she gonna straighten it?”.
I seem to attract white men more, which is no problem, and my friend told me I should straighten my hair and not wrap it up because “if he can’t run his fingers through it, he’ll get scared” lol.
Anyway, r2d2 didn’t say he was a midget, but if he is I would’ve recommended he try for shorter women.
He said that he can’t date short women either because they “demand even taller men, like 7 feet” lol. Who demands a 7 foot tall man? How many men even get that tall? The guy I’m into is like 5’9. My mom was taller than him lol.
Yes, I’m attractive, but that doesn’t mean I’m treated special. If anything, it’s been difficult. I was molested by my sisters brother from age 3-9. I was picked on in school, including boys pulling my pony tails, 2 boys pushing me face first in a mud puddle and a boy throwing a stick at me. My cousin’s boyfriend tried to have sex with me 3 times, and when I finally told her, he lied and she said “if you were a nornal 16-17 year old girl, none of this would’ve happened”. I was 16-17 and was 34…
When I was a sophomore in highschool, this guy would call me “Tyra Banks wannabe” and another guy tried to touch me during lab, and when I stopped him, he said I was stuck up.
When I was a cashier, I put the guy’s change in his hand and he grabbed my upper arm (bicep?) and tried to pull me over the counter. I snatched my arm away and flattened myself against the cig display, and he still kept trying to grab at me, but was to short to reach.
I was walking home one day and this guy passed me and parked in my driveway, so I thought he was waiting on someone there (it’s a 4-person building), but when I got to the driveway, he said “I just wanted to say you’re beautiful”…he knew where I lived! I never saw him before.<—-That…is what's creepy.
So, yeah everyone has issues, and being the *cute, prissy girl* isn't always as easy as everyone thinks.
Also, I get guys who want to fuck me, not guys who actually want to settle down and have a family.
So if that’s what I wanted, I’d have nothing to complain about.
@cutiepie
“Maybe I’m not understanding the point in pointing out that people have and will continue to show him pity. So what?”
he’ll always be treated different from other people. you can look at it in a good way or bad, it’s up to you i guess.
“I personally don’t pity him because there’s no reason to. He said himself he’s accomplishing more things than the average 25 year old. He can do everything we can do, just in a different way.”
i can’t help but to feel sorry for him and others like him. i wouldn’t blame him if he had a crappy attitude and a bad outlook on life, i probably would. i find a sense of accomplishment and self-worth by working with my hands and don’t know how i’d react if i lost or never had them.
i’m sorry that your mother died from a disease but it’s nice that you think back on her accomplishments. my mother died a little over a year ago at 50 from brain cancer. it started with seizures at work. after many doctor visits a hell of a lot of money spent she went through surgery to remove a large tumor from her brain. a surgery that usually takes four hours only took two and everything seemed to have went well. she then move out of state away from her family to be with her husband who i think’s an asshole and started chemotherapy there. her body got frail, her hair seemed like wire and eventually the seizures started again. i visited her a week before she past away. the left side of her body was paralysed because of the seizures and she couldn’t talk. her husband, my sister and the nurses warned that she may not remember/recognise me. when she was healthy she was the greatest person to be around but it’s hard to remember after watching her die the way she did.
by the way i have no problem with your argument against R2D2. i’ve got a short, chubby, balding friend that has not problem getting dates.
I see, you are getting the other end of the spectrum, when you are getting too much attention, and most of it from socially ankward, or agressive people. I can see how that can be unpleasant, ankward, or outright scary.
As for R2D2, like i said, i agree that his attitude is a problem. And i think we allready wasted far too many words on him. He is using the site mostly in write only mode it seems.
“Bullying in scool.”
I guess it is really worst over the sea. Here if any of the boys would have done anything like that to a girl, he would have quickly found himself in the isolation room. Nobody cared if a boy was beaten up, in fact, the teachers would usually balme the victims.
“Also, I get guys who want to fuck me, not guys who actually want to settle down and have a family.”
Yeah, we can all thank the “sexual revolution” for the fucked up attitudes we have today. That is, so far as dating, relationships, and eventually marriage/long term partnership/family planning goes in the west.
Where i live i got a load of other problems to worry about, so even if i had anyone willing to put up with me, and plan a family. The question remains.: “What kind of future would those children face in a country that is on a slow slide to hell?”