It’s all flesh and blood.
Dear ladies of the world,
I am a young male, damning I know, whom has come across this site and read a few of the posts displayed through the news feed. Surprisingly, I have not found getting angry, nor defensive about the views and rants posted here but almost empathetic and a bit sympathetic.
I will take into consideration that many(or some) of you have been abused sexually and/or violently by men and thus developed this hate. Not including these severe cases I have concluded in my mind that some of you, quite frankly fear men, or simply find you lack of understanding for the male being frustrating and this interpret this as hatred for men.
Anyway, I believe many of the posts shown here have displayed the message of deep insecurity. And upset. However, what you seem to fail to understand is it is a two way street; we are both human. Born from our mothers, live off emotion. Although different in some ways it may surprise you that we also share many of your characteristics, yet, feel we have to react a different way.
As a man, I feel women have more freedoms than I do in what they can wear, in what’s advertised for them, in job opportunities, in what you can socially acceptably say and do. As women of course you can see the opposite. And that’s fine but you’ve got to realise that that’s society, society is not completely run by brooding male bigots, the reason there may not be as many big wig entrepreneurs is that perhaps not as many women choose that career path. Although it is not hard to find strong, successful women what ever field you look at.
I found a post which I found particularly interesting. It was talking about the evolutionary theory behind why men would be unfaithful, cheat. I talked slanderously about how men have not evolved from their primitive instincts and how they have no control over their sexual urges for other women besides their lover.
As a someone very adept to the Theory of human evolution through a psychological lens, I will explain, in-short, the outline to you. ( im sorry for those whom may already know all this)
Humans are higher primates. From a very early stage men and women set themselves certain roles and tasks, which at the time was successful.
Men would;
1. Defend settlements,
2. Hunt for food,
3. Teach the young
4. Build shelter etc.
Women would;
1.Forage for fruit and nuts
2.Tend and befriend other females so that in the case that they were to die perhaps their young would be cared for by another woman.
3.Look after children etc.
This all sounds very sexist but this is how it was million of years ago.
Now, a lot has changed, gender roles are over lapping, equalism, multiculturalism, all these great things, but there are still instincts we have not evolved from in BOTH sexes.
Things like; men like cheating, men are lazy and all those other things you like to rant about but these are things we control! We have a conscience and it is our responsibility to ensure we remain faithful.
however, women also have primitive instincts still, “TEND and BEFRIEND”- give into a lot of social pressure to fit in, care a lot of other girls and try your hardest to please your friends is in fact an ancient instinct… MATERNAL… OBSESSION WITH LOOKS not all i know and a stereotype, but I have to go on stereotypes of both genders to make this point understandable, originally, men look for youth in a woman because they were the most fertile, women looked for muscle and intelligence(and age) in a man because they were the most resourceful,
Sexuality is just an overall frustrating thing;Men not giving unattractive women a chance is a terrible thing but the fact a woman stereotypically looks for a man of whom she can depend on and take his money and things to look after herself and their kids is not a very flattering prospect for me either.
I would like to hear you thoughts and comments on my post, thank you for reading, Im looking g for thoughts, opinions and debates, but an argument.
*All comments on gender is a generalisation and it must be understood that I understand completely that there are many exceptions and have never looked upon women as anything less (or more) than an equal to me (and malekind).
Thankyou
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Listen – we’ve all heard the “evolutionary theory” (excuse) for why men cheat or desire young, beautiful females. The thing is, if men have evolved enough to stop knuckle-dragging, pooping in the woods, eating raw meat, picking lice off each other etc, then men can learn to keep it in their pants.
I’m well versed in evolution and I think social construct has a far larger impact on allowing men to cheat and act like assholes. In evolution, females are programmed to desire alpha males – young, healthy, strong, fit (with larger penises). In gorillas, one or two alpha males preside over 6-10 females. These males mate with the females and protect them from other males – who will constantly try to get access to the females.
When an alpha male gets hurt, sick, or older and can no longer compete with the new fitter, healthier, younger males that try to gain access to the females. The original alpha male gets usurped and leaves the group! The females do not follow the disgraced former-alpha male. Instead, the females stay with the new young, hot alpha male (they “traded up”). You can argue that human females can easily dump their boyfriends/husbands for a slightly younger male who is fitter, more handsome (over your significant other with the balding head and beer gut), or she could go for a guy a bit older with more resources like a bigger bank account (over her man’s meager hard earnings). It happens all the time. Monogamy isn’t ingrained in either sex.
It’s the social construct that “boys will be boys” and patriarchy that lets guys get away with that crap. The only reason why women have the opportunity to defy social constructs now is because of ‘the pill’ and the sexual revolution. And now a lot of guys don’t like the fact that they are getting a spoonful of their own medicine. Also, if we were truly a slave to our biology, nerdy, short, unattractive guys would NEVER get to mate! If women are able to defy their biology and give you beta males a chance (beta males make up about 80-85% of human males on the planet) instead of forming harems around alpha males, then you guys should defy your biology and keep it in your pants!
For the record, I don’t think it’s right to cheat on anyone. But can you see how insulting it is for guys to claim their biology as an excuse for cheating on a woman? If a woman used her biology to excuse her crappy behavior, would you like it?
“It’s the social construct that “boys will be boys” and patriarchy that lets guys get away with that crap. The only reason why women have the opportunity to defy social constructs now is because of ‘the pill’ and the sexual revolution. And now a lot of guys don’t like the fact that they are getting a spoonful of their own medicine. Also, if we were truly a slave to our biology, nerdy, short, unattractive guys would NEVER get to mate! If women are able to defy their biology and give you beta males a chance (beta males make up about 80-85% of human males on the planet) instead of forming harems around alpha males, then you guys should defy your biology and keep it in your pants!”
That’s because a lot of theories and studies from evolutionary psychologists is pulled out their arses. A lot of it is pop psychology and not fact. I don’t buy into it and keep an open mind instead.
I don’t give a crap how things “used” to be. We don’t need to live like monkeys anymore!
you have all sadly missed the point. and we are far closer to our primitive roots that you would find comfortable, why are women so attracted to wealth and confidence?
and thanks for the discovery channel quote.
Furthermore ladies, you may hate men with all your hearts but we cant help the gender we were born into. Id encourage you to think objectively and respect the fact that not all men are drools morons. I know its nice to box because it makes you feel smart but can you explain monks with your theory?
i didnt excuse men via evolutionary biology, there was a blog earlier on iwth a lady in complete turmoil on why, so i explained the ‘theory’. as i said youve missed my attitudes completely. ive grown up around women and detest men myself, but i believe in no supremacy or inferiority we were born to coexist. A fact people will have to deal with.
I have never claimed to hate men on this site and have never treated them in a manner that would suggest otherwise. I just don’t buy into Pop Psychology and that was the point I was making. Cheers.
Where have you seen a study where women want a larger penis?
Please, enlighten me on where you get your scientific evidence.
>>>In gorillas, one or two alpha males preside over 6-10 females<<>>In evolution, females are programmed to desire alpha males – young, healthy, strong, fit (with larger penises lol).<<<
Actually, there is theory that not all women want an alpha male because it keeps the women
from all competing for the same male. Where are you getting your facts from the 40s & 50s?
Maybe . . . we would keep it in your pants if you women would quit reaching for it.
I_Recruit_Apples, I’m not trying to start another fight, but you know women cannot keep their zippers up, too.
In fact there is a new theory beginning to develop that the female orgasm produces oxytocin in the brain for bonding with their mate and if they don’t get this oxytocin they move on to another partner.
This site could become extinct soon if that theory becomes popular!
WOW . . . that’s total bunk!
Eh? I never said men couldn’t keep it in their pants. I was quoting what James Tyler said because she was talking about social construct in men and women. My point had nothing to do with male or female bashing. Just evo psychology bashing. Are you trying to start something?
Nope!
Hello, I_Recruit_Apples.
Very true!
Interesting how some people leaving comments think much evolution has happened in the last five thousand years. We are more or less exactly the same mentally. To deny evolutionary biology as being a huge force in shaping the mentality of a person is foolishness. It makes no sense to say ‘If we evolved to do (insert behavioural trait that directly influences chance of survival) than we can evolve to (insert psychological change that is more fitting to a particular world view)! Sorry, doesn’t work that way.
And who are these people that you are referring to? (It’d help to to reply to the person or use a name) There’s plenty of inaccurate, incorrect, biased and outdated Evo Psychological studies. Many of them lack sufficient proof, back up, evidence, unbiased tests/studies, etc. If it were against a persons ‘nature’ to act a particular way or pick up on a particular trait, then it simpy can’t be done. But the fact that men and women are experimenting, expressing themselves and picking up on traits that were, in the past, defined as stricly masculine/feminine traits shows that many of these traits are not hardwired, but rather socialised into us. If it were really true that women were not logical thinkers, there would be no female mathematicians, politicians, scientists, etc. As it stands, they have proven to be just as competent as the males in these fields. If it were really true that men were hardwired to feel little empathy/emotion and terrible nurturers then there would be no men in child care fields, very few expressive artists, no male carers, very few therapists, etc. But again, men have proven to be just as competent as women in these fields.
There are many men out there with a very low sex drive, petite bodies, squeaky voices, submissive, empathetic, irrational, multi taskers, emotional, faithful, etc. There are many women out there who are very sexually aggressive, high sex drive, rational and logically minded, apathetic, controlling, deep voiced, very hairy, dominant, etc. We are all a mixture of these different traits and qualities, whether we deny it or not.
I have to confess that last paragraph of yours is
turning me on, I_Recruit_Apples.
I find your reply confusing and a little perplexing!
Could you clarify and elaborate further?
I don’t know if I should agree with you or not.
Maybe, I shoud take a painkiller for the massive headache you just grave me from all that nonsense.
Honeybunch! He’s looking at other womens posts! lol
This site could become extinct soon if that theory becomes popular
But wouldn’t that be funny if that theory became popular. Shit, this website would be taken down so very quickly.”
so like any other man, your solution to a problem is to fuck fuck fuck fuck
I doubt that would work in the real world anyway, bc men are horrible lovers.
I’m not sure if men and women were made to coexist. If so, why are men so different?
Monks tend to have a difficult time dealing with their sex drives, and they are more likely to make mistakes than nuns. So…all men are dogs. Most men are drooling morons
well, i’ve always thought men were a lot like baboons
Melatonin,how many times do I have to tell you, DO NOT look at other womens breasts, errr, posts!!!
You see, you think you’re being intellectual and objectively fair, but you’re just the same as any other man, if not worse. What are you here to do? To teach us a lesson about how women are instinctively worse than men because we care too much about another’s feelings? To teach us why we’re wrong about men, and equally, or even more incorrect in our actions and thoughts? We’re all quite familiar with the theory of evolution, thank you. You’re just coming off as ignorant and pretentious, deluded into thinking you’re anything but, “ZelliTheEqualist.” While most other men will think they’re well above, you’re trying to prove to us about how women are more well off than men, with our oh-so broad array of choices, ending it with how you’re not too keen on the idea that women like ambitious men to provide for their children? Oh, and we can’t even control those things, like you are able to when you could sleep around, and choose to anyway. And poor us, we’re so maternal, and ready to please the people we care about. But this whole rant wasn’t because you’re being defensive or angry, but that you pity us because we’re so “insecure” and “upset” because of what we’ve been perpetually reassured of through our experiences.
By the way, I know you think you’re quite well-versed in basic grammar, but it is indeed “who” and not “whom” that would have been correct in your first sentence. While there are many other errors, I’m sure you can pick those out for yourself.
Thanks.
For all you men who are defending your biology – go right ahead. If you think that your gender entitles you to being promiscuous or unfaithful, go right ahead. But understand this – this is WHY women hate you. And many do. I also have to agree w some of what Melissa is saying.
Men don’t have emotions so STFU already.
Men spread disease.