by fallenangel
I hate the male nature
2:55 pm in I Hate Men by fallenangel
I met someone a little less than a year ago. Like always the beginning is paradise. You put faith in love again in the man your with according to his merits than somehow along the way he changes. Suddenly you’ve dropped down two numbers on his priority list. Then confusion sets in. So does loneliness and frustration.
”Why is he so preoccupied with everything else? his job, his car, himself.”
What about me. Im not certainly perfect but I do my part to give him what he needs. And noticed that when you give a man what he needs he alienates you. My needs are not as important anymore. Everytime situations get too hot for him he throws me away and demands space. But when things are fine thats when he wants me the most. Its so unfair. I hate the way men are. Their so selfish, its them first than maybe everything else.
I feel so unloved and not worthwhile for him. I rather be single for the rest of my life. Not because of him but because I’m tired of trying. Men and woman supposed to compliment each other. Supposed to balance each other. I know I don’t need a man to survive or be complete. But I would like to need a man anchor on him when im at my weakest. Feel him support me get all this weight off me just for a while. Instead the only thing that helps me forget is a goodnight sleep. Thank god for healthy melatonin.
Well, the reason why it’s always paradise when you first get with a guy is because that’s the picture they want to paint to keep you around. Then he gets comfortable. He starts going about his life as he normally would. Every woman wants a real man, but the truth is everyman is real. You just have to find out what type of “real” man you are dealing with. What i mean is figure out if you are dealing with a “real” liar, a “real” selfish man, a “real” fake man, etc. This will help you figure out what his motives are with you, and if this is the type of man you want. In the meantime, I think you should see other people. You don’t need to be stressing over one man, when there are so many other men out there. You don’t deserve to be put on the back burner if you are doing everything that you need to be doing. YOU’RE TRYING! He’s not. So’ start ignoring his ass. You become “preoccupied” with other things too!
MISANDRIST!!!!!!!
@ZB you are encouraging cheating. what the hell is wrong with you?
she should talk to him about it. like resolve problems through communication.
men are not children or pets, you can reason with them.
Read the book “Why men love bitches” By Sherry Argov, you’ll never be mistaken again for life and you will finally get men and why that boyfriend of yours does waht he does… You will see his description in the book and laugh about it… Yes honey, you bf loves a bitch!
My advice to you is, stop daydreaming that there is a man better that will be what you need. They are exctint! Don’t believe me? Fine! I didn’t either! But the truth is not what we wish it to be… Men are bastards, son of bitches. You can be friends with them and it’s fine! But more than that you will ALWAYS have to quit some part of yourself or your Prince Charming dream… This is not what Sherry Argov says, it’s what I say. She just teaches how to deal with them, and is much less radical!
Men are asses and women should just play them. Men are incapable of love and commitment, they sell their mother for a fuck! Understand this: Men only want sex from a women and a slave to take care of them. They don’t understand nothing about love! That is the real truth about them! The more you treat them like garbage, the more they desire you and that is what they think that they feel is love! It’s not! It’s lust and adrenaline! Treat them well and you are a dormat they walk on! The more you run from them the more they’ll go after you. i tried it and it works every single damn time! They don’t feel love, they only feel lust and adrenaline. Men are incapable of real love! And when they believe that they are in love a bet it’s because the girls acts like a bitch in sherry Argov’s terms!
The best thing for any women to do is to become a selfish bicth towards them and pleasing herself first before any other person. My best friend was like that… I thought she was wrong, she always had the men she wanted, and all the highschool guys persued her… and she didn’t even weared make up. She has been married for two years and way before me. She was right, she knew that to be with a man, she has to be in control!
They are shit! Women should all be lesbians and use them as friends or servents! Unfortunnely it’s not a choice to be gay or not! So I’m not! But men is God’s biggest mistake! They will always bring you pain, and give you work and it’s simply not worth it!
They are liars, corrupt, manipulators, rats, without any shred of honour, honesty , or generosity unless they get something from it! Their penis always comes first! Not you! Or even them! The penis is the captain, control that and you control them! That’s the only way you’ll ever have any straw of hapiness if you insist on having a man in your life. Forget all the hollywood romance shit, it’s pure ficton!
Oh and never, ever feel guilty, to make a men suffer, they are very weak emotionally to understand what real pain is! Besides it only last 10 seconds for them… or until they find another pussy to play with!
Fuck men!
Don’t love them!
http://www.amazon.com/Why-Men-Love-Bitches-Relationship/dp/1580627560/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1270304405&sr=8-1
Oh and please watch the first sex and the city episode… Carrie tells it like it is!
Stop dreaming sleeping beauty, your prince charming is dead for more than a thousand years!
Very true Kyra. When I was younger and hotter, I used to play them like a fiddle. Had 2 or 3 at a time, each had a purpose – money, sex, friendship. Couldn’t have been happier. They always chased me, spent money and they loved the verbal abuse and games I used to play. I was proposed to several times. It was hilarious.
Once I got older and got pressured into wanting the so-called “real relationship” that’s when everything turned to shit. Men like a challenge, they run on testosterone and adrenaline, it’s a rush when a woman is powerful and isn’t emotional like they are used to.
Use them for what you can get. No money, no honey. As you get older its harder to find ones that are good in bed. Most of those types are big-time players, that’s how they got so good! If you can, go for the younger ones, they perform better and are usually more fun. If you find one, keep them in the sex-only category.
I hate defending my own gender, but a lot of men are very insecure in one specific way: we feel like our girlfriend/wife etc. should lean on us, not the other way around. It’s almost like an internal gender steriotype. To my mind it’s a child of social peer-pressure machismo and what Freud called ‘the Goddess Complex’ (‘Mother is God in the eyes of a child’). One thing that scares a lot of men is the idea that we are adopting our partner as a replacement for our mother without even realising it. It’s flat out insane, but it really does haunt us.
The combination makes allowing ourselves to be vulnerable with our partners when we are at a low extremely difficult at times. Then again, I’m inclined to believe that being able to overcome that particular weakness is the measure both of a man and of a relationship.
Oh, and ‘Andrea’: ‘Man Eaters’ like you tend to pray on the few good men there are and end up convincing them that being a good man isn’t worth the effort. You’re part of the problem honey, not part of the solution.
Ki,
First off, why are you on this site? In case you haven’t noticed it’s for women. Secondly, the so called “Man Eaters” are born from “Pussy Haters” like yourself who treat women like trash if she is available, interested in a relationship and actually gives a shit. Don’t believe me, try going out if people still do that these days, and sit next to a women being a complete bitch to a guy. Let me know what you see. They love it.
Define “good man”. Most them are lazy, cheap, whinny, wimpy limp dick MF’s. Please, unless you can give birth shut the Fk up.
@Andrea.
Lol, I agree with Ki. If you hate certain types of men so much, does that mean you hate yourself?
I understand Andrea, actually I think she’s right regarding in the way men treat women and that “Man Eaters” are born from “Pussy Haters”.
Usually when I hear about a “bitch” that made a man suffer, I feel she’s is fighting the cause of women’s rights. Women have been overly abused by men, and still are emotionally exploited by them. It’s nice to know there are women that even the score.
Personally my respect for men only goes as far as friends, which I think they can be great at (at least my ones), beyond that, they fail completely. I don’t believe in good guys- Those are the WORSE. I even had a swear by heart good guy that cried because I didn’t kissed him in the first date, cried cause his ex-girfriend had cheated on him, cried cause he was this huge nice guy always mistreated by girls (that only seem to like bad guys), cried cause his mama died, only to go to bed with another girl only a week after I accepted to be his girlfriend and be intimate with him, after weeks of begging me to! Till today he still says that he is not like all the other men… right, only his actions! In fact I haven’t met a man that hasn’t told that he is completely different from all the other bastards- specially after being one!
I also lost count of how many married men with kids, seem so innocent normal guys and tried to push me into some affair, or one night stand… they usually never say they’re married… unless you ask… and if you do… they are always divorcing or splitting from the former wives… and number of them that actually did till today? 0 Zero, nada, niente!
I even cracked with laughs when a married guy I had just met, with two kids told me he loved me after suggesting me to go to an hotel with him ( I was dating the cheating innocent cry-baby jerk), I said the only love he was feeling was his penis lust and I wound’t cheat my boyfriend… – Oh no! – he said- I’m sure is more than just lust… there’s an amount of love I feel for you! Yeah right… and I’m seven years old!
Honestly the amount of dirt women get from men on a daily basis is so huge… my (rethoric) question is how not to hate them?
Those married men, have concerned, caring, loving wives… not “Men eaters” and they still behave like jerks! They say their wives are horrible… yet,,, never leave them for the chick they’re trying to eat…ooops.. fuck! While the “chick” gets stuck in some stupid lie of love he may feel for her, that prevents her from moving forward with her life or date other guys, or that one day he’ll leave the wife or girlfriend he forgot to mention he had, for her… Ahahaha.. Hollywood story! Except for her… of course, trasformation almost complete… just a few more innocent men.. ooops jerks… and you’re ready! You’ve become a Men “H”ater! The reason women hate is because they have a heart, they are programmed to love, and that love was stained by all the stupidity, dishonesty and insensivity, coldness, incapability to feel anything that the men they loved have! If you can’t love’em, e/hate’em! It comes a time when one must stop believing in Santa Claus, since he never came… and a woman must stop believing in the goodness or honesty of men, since they’ve never shown it to her!
The only insecure men I’ve met we’re Mama’s boys that do suffer from Oedipus complex and are useless since they want to marry their mothers, and the other type suffers from penis complex! (maybe it’s related) Of course there are many derivations from that… but I leave it to Lous Andreas Salomé that knew Freud quite well and even gave him some ideas, better than the crazy idea he had of women feeling inferior to men cause they didn’t had a penis( men and the penis, what’s up with that? they are obsessed!)! LOL She proved him wrong by taming all men she ever knew to her feet, a few quite famous, (Freud includeed), this in a time when women’s rights were being fought!
I only know two types of men, jerks, and the ones I trust not to be jerks and get to be in my family or friends circle . And those are the ones who have not tried to take me with bed with them! Even they agree that most men are jerks and even they have saved me in the past from other jerky guys that had me on their stupid plans!
Yet I have to say this… maybe… just maybe… a guy born from a virgin… could be men’s-race only hope… since he has no genetic code from a man… lol… maybe in a galaxy far far away (ah right, that one became Darth Vader)- even Hollywood agrees…
Anyway… in case there really are guys that have not trasnformed into complete jerks out there… and actually are making a serious effort to improve their male condition and race… please continue… there’s always kudo’s for trying… women apreciatte that. Who know’s one of those sleeping beauty’s that haven’t become haters of the male race, manages to find her prince charming (though I seriously doubt, their expiring date lasts that long) !
Man-haters born from pussy-haters born from man-haters born from pussy-haters…and on and on and on.
Sorry but that’s just childish. The cycle is only broken when you choose to be a decent person and not use others. Andrea wasn’t making all the “bad men” pay, she was having fun and using them.
No better than all the sleezes out there that manipulate women, get them drunk and into bed to fullfill their ego-fantasies. I’ve no No respect for either men or women that behave like this.
If the world was perfect utopia it would made sense… but it isn’t!
It is chidlish…but I’ve never met a real mature person on the planet.
Everyone uses someone in the current dysfuntional society. The cycle has never been broken, it may take thousands of years till it is broken, if it will ever be broken.
Having fun and using man- from my perspective- is a way to make them pay, or at least to not be the one being used or hurt, cause the amount of men using and abusing (i.e manipulating, exploiting) women is astronomic, and most of them didn’t become pussy-haters or born because of man-haters. The amount of cheating men, compared to the amount of cheating women it’s almost consensual that the amount of cheating men is heavier. As it is the amount of single mothers compared to the single fathers- and usually the last are only single because they are widows.
But making them pay or not, is not even the point. Not respecting them – pussy/man haters- (or even respecting them), won’t change them nor will it make any difference to prevent an “innocent” being used. That innocent the more aware “she” is of what’s out there in terms of men, the better for her, cause then she may protect herself from loads of pain. The rest of the bunch that has already been burnt, nor one, or twice but many, many times… others can blame them if they want, I don’t blame them, for giving to men what they gave to them or their female peers, not “just” to make them pay… cause that’s the only thing women can get from them in intimate relationships. They give what they’ve received, (cause they’ve never received what they gave! )
Like the girl that made this thread… complaining about her boyfriend giving her distancy when she is loving and caring, but him becoming loving and caring when she distances from him… They (men) love to be treated as garbage, used, and exploited. I think men-haters are giving them what they want! It’s a rarity that there is a man that really is capable of loving a nice, loving male race lover female. And the reason I say that is because I was one, and I’ve never have met one! But they meeting me at that time, hasn’t change them an inch!
I do believe that they are capable of worshiping a female that is a male-race lover that manipulates them, uses them as she pleases… that’s how my girlfriends always had the men they wanted, when they wanted, and they never tried to distance themselves, or leave them… my friends were always the ones that dumped them!
It’s really foolish to expect to be the focal point of ANYONE’s life, period.
Man or woman, it’s really childish to be quite honest, at the beginning of a relationship there is always a period infatuation and that is NOT what a long term relationship is all about.
Either you need to reconcile that relationships are two people occupying a relative space as they go through life, or you need to reconcile that you’re addicted to infatuation and that you don’t WANT a relationship.
Because demanding that relationships consist of nothing but eternal infatuation is beyond immature.
Also, Kyra
I’ve never seen anyone so personally bitter and poisonous toward another group of people in a long time.
Absolutely none of what you have said can be taken objectively, you’re just rationalizing your own hateful vendetta against men.
Advocating other women going around screwing over men simply because YOU feel you’ve been wronged is such a god awful attitude. It’s attitudes such as this which will sink society.
You’re not even making any reasonable criticisms that can be broadly applied to men, you may think you’re cleverly masking your own personal irrational hatred, but all I read is:
“I’m in pain, and because I’m in pain everyone must be in pain”.
That’s a disgusting attitude, shame on you.
To Neema,
If you don’t like what I say, don’t read!
I don’t care what you think, you’re entitled to your opinion as I am to mine and we are both entitled to express it!
You are also entitled to be delusional of your rightous superiority know it all towards me, to judge me and call me names, some people are racist and there’s nothing one can do about it! In fact Neema you’ve just proved you are not that different from me! You did a bang up job in changing me, thanks to you now I see the light! You are soooooooo right girl! Wow! You know everything about me, now don’tcha? Thank you for your loving peaceful comments that just healed all my pain! That really works! from now on milady Neema, i’m going to speak only good things about men and everyone…. only because you told me so!- See I can be delusional too!
Just to be clear to all other readers, I have not attacked any individual posters intentionally. My attack is towards the male gender in general, which from my perspective I am entitled to feel whatever it is I feel, and it’s no ones business, and since this blog is about expressing those same feelings, I believe IT IS MY RIGHT TO DO SO and FREELY EXPRESS IT!
As for me, Neema, I won’t read any other of your comments previous or future or even bore to respond to any of them, they are to below my value of time and self to even be considered.!
PS:
I will continue to make my comments as I please, who wants to read them, read, those that don’t like them, don’t! I am not ashamed of anything I said nor will I be!
I don’t change even a dot in my previous comments!
If you don’t like me you can KISS MY ASS!
Love ya!
Oh Neema, just two more things….
Honestly- I like your name!
and second: Thank you for the love! No one wastes that amount of time in trying changing someone unless they trully care for them… I’m touched!
Well, duh. Hope he changes? Don’t give an a-hole a second chance. You don’t actually LOVE him, that’s dumb! And they say men are the shallow ones… Please think before you enter a relationship and be your own woman, and not some slave waiting on a miserable dumb man because you sound so lame! Stop being so childish and think before you enter a relationship so fast!
God, most women are so stupid. f-ing mindboggling.
Hmmmmm….
I wonder (doubtly) if there’s any woman that is “really happy with a man*” on this blog… I have a hint that if such woman exists she would not be anywhere around this website… (or planet).
*really happy in terms of really having found that prince charming that she loves and is loved by, and doesn’t need to manipulate him nor is she manipulated by him.
I guess such woman lives on fantasy planet…
God… do a better work next time, or i’ll call the Goddess, it takes a woman to do it right!
I’m 43 and after so much shit, abuse, having my love turned on its head for reasons I don’t understand, I’ve found my way to this site. Fuck men indeed. I’m through. One has to play games to get them to maintain their interest – don’t show that you love them, don’t do nice things for them, don’t expect anything from them at all, be a complete and total bitch even if that is not your nature because men only want to be w/bitches. Pretend you basically hate them if you want them to chase you around and then don’t ever think you can be yourself (i.e. a loving, caring person) because the second you show that side of yourself, they will lose interest and want no more of you. Fuck them. I’m ready to move into a shack in the arctic w/my dogs, and a big fucking sign that reads MALE TRESPASSERS WILL BE SHOT ON SIGHT!. I’ve given love, given space, given understanding, given my sense of humor and love of fun. In return, i’ve gotten mistreated, lied to, and left. I am still a beautiful woman for my age, and men continue to find me very attractive. Guess what, they can all stick it up their own asses, cuz their not getting this one anymore. Glad I found this site.
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OMG Michelle I SO, SO hear you sister!
I am 51 and agree with every single thing you have said. I have loved, wholeheartedly, slavishly, given the bastards all my care, attention and respect, and they aren’t worth a shit are they? I have finally come to the conclusion that men are incapable of real love. It’s probably not even their fault, maybe only women are hard-wiring by nature to love because nature needs us to love, so that we will do anything to nurture and protect our children. By the same token, maybe men just have to be selfish and brutal because they are “wired” to go kill animals for food.
If we want true, deep, caring love, we have to find another woman.
If ur man tells u he is going to miss yur brothers stag weekend, which is already arranged and includes going with your brothers and dad, uncles, cousins etc, because he wants to go to his sisters 30th birthday meal is this acceptable?? Causing a massive row! I appreciate a birthday is important expecially a BIG one but stag doos normally only happen once and birthdays happen every year…
This site is feminist and sexist. To hate one gender is being a half-misanthrope. No gender is dominant over the other. To say that one gender has this specific characteristic is stereotyping, and thus ignorant.
Ignorance is the fault of human society, in both genders in all people.
And yet we find culpable the group we do not pertain to.
I hope you shall understand that the nature of man is not bad but what taints the hearts of humanity causes us to have an evil nature.
The richest person in the world is a man, and so is the smartest person in the world (this can be argued however). Then again, the poorest person in the world is most likely a man, and the dumbest person in the world is a man.
As you can see, stereotyping a gender is ignorant and inconsiderate.
If you are worried about being oppressed by society, then I feel your pain, but blaming it upon men is far-fetched.
This site is meant for women… Woman who’ve been through a great deal of hurt with men. We do need to vomit our anger, pain in the most feminist and sexist way, so that a tiny bit of that pain may hit the ones who’ve hurted us. And because they usually are so many, the rest pay for the few.
We don’t want to be rational, we could never rationally understood the irrational behaviour of the men we got involved with.
We do want to stereotype men and give up to understand them because the pain we have to deal with has gotten beyond any reason.
We do have a very faint hope behind all the “hate” that one of the guys reads this and really understands it from the heart… but usually they give the wrong answer and we cruxify them, because we want to. Even when they talk as if they understand, it’s usually to tell us not to hate them… it’s still the wrong answer… we are tired of accomodating what men want… We just are in a state that we hate… allow us that!
Society is ignorant in many ways… in the relationship field men do need a course… cause it’s not meant to be a kill, but most still think it is!
A woman in pain is unable to understand or be demanded to give up ignorant acts… she doesn’t need a lecture… she needs to be heard… she needs to feel she’s being heard.
If men are really clever and look deeper… they would be able to read in all the hate messages… that women actually hate to hate men…
We do have to blame men… because they are guilty for the pain we are feeling… there’s no rationality in that… it doesn’t have to have any rationality.
Our wish is that you could walk in our shoes and feel how it hurts! But our sadness is that appearantly if that would be possible most men wouldn’t act like they do. And the need for this site would be much lessened…
So some of us, get really scientifically ignorant on purpose… cause maybe there’s a male human being outhere able to feel a bit of pain and get hit by that ignorance, the ignorance they also taught us.. some of us have real serious doubts if such thing as feelings is possible in a male human, so we test it. if they can feel pain maybe they can understand love the way we do. Is this stupid? Probably! We don’t care…
Some of us just are in great deal of pain… and have the right to be and to speak it out, and be feminist, sexist and ignorant! And no men that hasn’t really felt like that really is for at least ten times in his life, and feel what is like to be treated like a piece of meat even when decently dressed, or at work even at the risk of loosing the job, or at home, ignored for her loving acts, and abandoned for always loving too much or being honest, and knows what is like to be used and exploited emotionnaly and psycologicaly over and over and over and over and felt that like a woman does… can tell her to be rational and sensible.
She CAN’T be rational… and she doesn’t need to in that state…
Therefore, in spite of the different objectives of the admin… is this sexist, feminist, ignorant hate men website!
”Why is he so preoccupied with everything else? his job, his car, himself.”
“What about me.”
Too funny. You broke my irony meter.
Just stumbled upon this website . Having one of those “what’s wrong with me?’ days. I am 53 and feel I’ve spent most of my life trying to keep a man happy while all the time making myself unhappy. I just don’t like men anymore. There is nothing a man could provide for me that I can’t take care all on my one. Every man I have ever had in my life including my father has hurt me to a degree and I just don’t understand why men feel that it’s ok to do so. I have been made to feel like I am worthless as a woman much less a wife or a mother. I feel I lost myself to every relationship I’ve ever had and come out of it feeling invisible. I’m to the point that I don’t trust men and think they are selfish and liars. Seems they are interested in only what a woman can do for them and could care less about what they give in return. I don’t think I’ve ever met a nice guy who wasn’t gay. All end up just the same and every time I have to put up more walls to protect myself from the next asshole that comes around. Now my walls are very thick and very tall but I feel I have finally figured it all out, at least for me. I am ok being without a man in my life. I’m not a lesbian – I just don’t have anything left inside me to give to anyone. I have given it all. We sit and talk about the women that “got it right”. Show me one woman in a relationship with a man that is truly happy because there are none as far as I can see. Not one that I have ever known, my mom, sisters or my own girls, can tell me they are truly content with what they’ve got. I know a man can never make me happy. I may sound like an angry old woman but the fact is that’s what life with men have made me. Tired, angry, resentful, and fed up. I’m done with them. Even my own sons will grow up to make a woman’s life miserable. They can’t help it as that’s what they do. I just don’t understand anymore what’s happened to men that make them so easy to treat women so badly and not even hesitate to do it. More worried about being one of the guys instead of showing respect to the woman that takes care of everything from washing his shitty drawers to feeding his face. We always come last and I’m tired of being last. I’m just tired period. Thanks for listening
I’m so so sorry Kat. I know how you feel. I also wasted way too much of my life on selfish, ungrateful, nasty men. What I have come to realise about men is that they have no feelings, they pretend they do, but they don’t actually care about you or your feelings at all. They are only out for themselves, and they only care about making themselves happy. Most of them are egocentric. They want nice big flashy cars and young model like women to show off to their friends. They truly are shallow and pathetic. They treat women like a possession, as if they own them, not a human with feelings, but more like a toy that they might just trade in for a younger more fun model one day. They will allow you to waste your whole life on them, and in the end they might just throw you away like you was nothing to them. The enjoy destroying women, its like a fun game to them. If they are unhappy with their life, they will blame everything on you and make you feel like complete shit about yourself. Many of them pretend to be with the times, but deep down, they feel they are so much better and smarter than us. They look down on us, see us as weaker beings only to exist in the world to serve them. They use our bodies just to please themselves, but they don’t give a shit whether you enjoyed their nasty dick in you. I can’t say i actually ever enjoyed sex with a man. I might have pretended i did just to please them at the time, but looking back now, they were all so disappointing. Not even worth mentioning actually.
Anyway, I for one have chosen not to waste another single minute of my life on a man ever again. Never! I’ve been single for awhile now and I’m absolutely loving it. I’m in a relationship with myself. It really is the best. You are right, we don’t need men for anything. Imagine how amazing this world would be without men in it. They only like to break and destroy things anyway.
Man: Awww….boo hoo, a sexist site from the point of view of women. Bet you don’t give two shits about sites sexist towards women. Like, I dunno….the REST of them!
Why would I give my excretions to show my caring on a particular subject? I’m being droll today.
Okay, in all seriousness, I do care about women subjugated by society. I believe that not men cause them to be repressed but the standards that society placed upon them.
I AM being droll today. Also, I do not like to break and destroy things, but I enjoy building and inventing. Am I the “anti-man?”
Most of the world is in poverty, so men abuse women to relieve themselves of feeling stressed towards their conditions.
Most of the world is conservative Christianity, which downplays the role of women.
Most of the world pays more attention to culture than religion, where religion can give several rights to women, but a culture deprives them and tries to make men dominant.
Caz: If any of the human genders left the earth, we could not survive as a species.
@ Man
I do like intelligent men who like to build and invent things. Men like you can stay in the world. : ))) and like you say, the human species wouldn’t survive, but it would be interesting to see how long it would take until we women were all wiped out without men in the world.
@Eirwen: Shut the f*** up, what’s your business on this site anyways? Its “things” like you that like to make us feel miserable!! Maybe someone will find a cure for this genetic disease called “men”… I’m looking forward to it, that would we worth a Nobel price.
Watermelon: I do not understand whether you are for or against this site. You seem like you are contradicting yourself.
By the way, since most of the members on the Noble Prize committee are men, I do not think they would be happy if you created a “cure” to eliminate men.
I’m sure the world would find this “cure” to be more of a “pathogen” or “weapon.”
Oh…I’ve mistaken Eirwen for a man… I’M SO SORRY!!!
Shame on me…
By the time this “cure” will be availible, there will be no man left in the Nobel prize comittee…
Just kidding, I don’t think this will ever happen…
But maybe some mind-altering genetics wouldn’t be that bad for guys…so they will be become more human.
Something is very wrong with this culture. The way its rearing itself doesn’t feel right to me, on so many levels in so many ways. I can’t wait to get out of a society that thrives on Narcissism. But for now I am stuck living in a garage, trying to scrape a life together keeping one eye over my shoulder.
Watermelon: Just to tell you, I am a man, as my name suggests.
*GULP*
I looked this site up because I needed the lyrics for the song “I Hate Men” (From Kiss Me Kate)
Someone earlier said the majority of the world is conservative Christian. This is not true, but what is true is that the majority are monotheists, either Christian, Islam or Judaism, and they all denigrate women to some extent, putting them in second class wherever and whenever possible. The problem with the monotheists is that they think men are superior to women and thus all the sexual problems, the pedophilia and so on, are natural results. I’ve been celibate for 33 years and don’t plan to get into another relationship with any man for the rest of my life. I would recommend, to anyone who is considering such a relationship, to first find out all about yourself, find out who you are, work for a few years, get involved with service organizations and then see whether you still desire a relationship with a man.
girl you don’t need him, kick him to the curb , you can do so much better nobody deserves to be treated like that, he needs to be a man , i don’t know him and i cant stand him myself now……
Women are pieces of shit but they need to acknowledge that fact.
They need to acknowledge and promote the fact that:
(i) Women hate them. All women who get the opportunity to hate men hate men, no exceptions.
(ii) Women are worthless amoral pieces of shit.
Men are under a lot of illusions and repress alot of woman hate that would come natural too them if they were less repressed.
Death to women’s rights.
All women are scum.
Women are not human beings. Let’s build a society based on Realism – the Realism that women are nothing but dumb worthless animals.
What I have come to realise about women is that they have no feelings, they pretend they do, but they don’t actually care about you or your feelings at all. They are only out for themselves, and they only care about making themselves happy. Most of them are egocentric. They truly are shallow and pathetic. They treat men like a possession, as if they own them, not a human with feelings, but more like a toy that they might just trade in for a younger more fun model one day.
A society based on Realism, the Realism that women are animals – nay, way below animals. We need such a society Right Now.
@ Womanhater
This site is for women who hate men. Not the other way round. And you copied a whole paragraph of what I previously wrote and turned it around to talk about women ???
@ Womanhater: It’s precisely because of scum like you why I hate men. Nuff said.
Astrocat: Islam and Judaism do not degrade women. If you read their scriptures, women are of great character. I recently converted to Islam, and I am on a vacation in the Middle East and Africa. Wow, do women have rights! They get to cover themselves and be treated as HUMAN BEINGS and not SEX OBJECTS!
Places like Saudi Arabia follow a false Islam called “Wahabbism” or “Salafism.” This is an extremist sect of Islam. Prophet Muhammad [SAW] treated women BETTER than men during his lifetime and helped them from living in OPPRESSION from men. In Islam, Eve was created separately from Adam and both of them were blamed for eating the fruit.
I was engaged (yesterday) to an amazing Muslim woman who I can see as very elevated within the community.
I’m not saying that Christianity destroys the rights of women. That is simply not true. It’s society that does that, and since most of society justifies their acts through a conservative Christianity which calls for the dominance of men, then so be it, but I always blame the PEOPLE NOT THE RELIGION.
Peace.
@ Man.
Women should not have to cover themselves to be treated as human beings. They are human beings regardless.
Most Muslim women I know, absolutely hate the coverings that certain cultures force them to wear, and they are the first ones that will tell you it is degrading. It is also degrading to men, as it assumes that men cannot control their sexual urges as though they are little more than wild animals.
Muhammad married a 6 year old, and had sex with her when she was 9. Yes he did try and elevate the status of women compared to their treatment at the time, but he only got so far. Raping a 9 year old, allowing men to hit women as a divine right, and allowing polygamy , he is hardly a model for womens right.
Annie: I thought that about Muhammad [SAW] before I became Muslim for years. Then I saw the truth. Aisha and her father Abu Bakr kept on pestering the Prophet to marry Aisha. At that time, marriage with three year olds was common.
And about polygamy–he LIMITED THE SYSTEM FROM AS MANY WOMEN YOU CAN HAVE SEX WITH TO ONLY FOUR WOMEN YOU CAN MARRY. HE ALSO SAID THAT YOU HAVE TO TREAT ALL YOUR WIVES EQUALLY, AND IF YOU CAN’T DO THAT STICK WITH MONOGAMY. He also gave women the right to vote, the right to divorce, the right to work, the right to manage money, and the right to live alone. He stopped female infanticide. He stopped rape of women. They were also given the right to EDUCATION. Now he is a role model for women’s rights. You may ask, why did he have more than four wives? IT IS BECAUSE HE WAS THE HEAD OF STATE–HE WAS TO TAKE CARE OF ALL WIDOWS. THESE WIDOWS WANTED TO MARRY THE PROPHET [SAW] AND GOD LET HIM FOR A WHILE. HE DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH MOST OF HIS WIVES AND TREATED THEM ALL KINDLY. MEN IN ARABIA AT THE TIME BEAT THEIR WIVES, BUT THE PROPHET [SAW] SAID WIFE BEATING WAS WRONG UNLESS THE WOMAN DOES NOT PRACTICE HER RELIGION CORRECTLY AND REFUSES TO PRACTICE HER RELIGION CORRECTLY. THE PROPHET [SAW] LET THEM GO OUTSIDE TO HAVE FUN AND SPEAK TO OTHER WOMEN, UNLIKE SOME OTHER PEOPLE’S WIVES. A MOTHER HAS SUCH A GREAT ROLE IN ISLAM AND A DAUGHTER IS “A BREEZE FROM THE GARDENS OF EDEN” AS MUHAMMAD [SAW] POINTED OUT. Okay. Too many Caps but I wanted to emphasize it all. HE ALSO PRACTICED POLYGAMY WHEN HE WAS 53! HIS SEXUAL DESIRE WAS BASICALLY NONE WHEN HE WAS PRACTICING MONOGAMY AT 25 years old WITH A 50 YEARS OLD WOMAN AND THEN HE PRACTICES POLYGAMY AT SUCH AN OLD AGE!
MEN AT THIS AGE NEED VIAGRA FOR SEXUAL DESIRE!
I learned this after I read the Qur’an from a book called “AN APOLOGY FOR MUHAMMAD AND THE KORAN” by John Davenport, who later converted to Islam.
Muslim women that you refer to are living in the States–they are being subjected to a culture based on materialism, appearance, and sex. That is a great example of Islam. The women living in Muslim places and are oppressed shows that that nation is not one of Islam, but one of POLITICS and the EVIL GREEDS of SOCIETY!
The hijab is a veil to protect the women and to respect GOD NOT men. Women wear the hijab because they want to be safe from the lustful eyes of men. I can assure you that most men have lustful eyes. The hijab is not needed to make the women A HUMAN BEING OR EQUAL BUT IT IS NEEDED TO PROTECT HERSELF FROM THE LUSTFUL THOUGHTS OF STUPID MEN. You are of those who think men are not this desirous–all men in my Med school need only a glance at a women in shorts with large breasts to get an erection.
Please do not Insult my new religion or my Prophet [SAW].
By the way, I by no means wish to offend anyone at all. ALL THE FACTS ABOUT MUHAMMAD [SAW] ABOVE IS HISTORICAL AND UNBIASED. Try to beat that.
I love Jesus [AS] and I love Moses [AS]. I was just showing how Muhammad [SAW] gave so many rights to women.
Moreover, any word synonymous to “man” in the Qur’an occurs just as many times as how many times a word synonymous to “woman” occurs in the Qur’an.
I am not proselytizing anyone. I just respect all woman and showing how a man 1400 years ago did also.
@ Man
How does your new religion view liberated women who decide to live their life being single and free from men. To self-educate and be successful in life without the help of any man. To love and believe in god and only need their faith to get them through life on their own. To concentrate on oneself and her career. To enjoy being in a relationship with herself and the universe? To report any male sexual harasser to the police or other higher powers that be. I really do believe that men should practice self-control over their own sexual thoughts and urges. Why do they have to go around trying to impregnate and give diseases to innocent women who are brainwashed my the media and music videos into thinking society thinks they should dress scantily. These poor girls don’t even realise how brainwashed they are…and most men just have no respect. All they care about are their dicks and satisfying their lustful urges.
@man.
Nothing you’ve said changes my original reply to you. All you are saying is you agree with Islam. I already figured that out.
Sorry, but having sex with a 9 yeard old is not okay, regardless of wether or not you say it was “common”. And this is what the founder of that religion did. He married a child, and raped a child. And apparently all the time was having “god” revealled to him. Some God.
What do women need protection from? Why should women cover themselves in an uncomfortable manner because of male lust? Men should control their lust or lock themselves at home. Women should not have to restrict their behaviour due to the weakness and stupidity of men. Strong men control their behaviour they do not blame women for their own issues. Only a narcissistic coward does this. The Hijab and burqua, have nothing to do with respecting God no matter what a man or a religion tries to claim. Islam and the covering of women, teaches men to be weak, not strong.
As I already stated eariler, muhammad did try and improve the conditions for women and children but he certainly supported many philosophies that are terrible. Such as a man’s right to hit a woman, as well as polygomy. It is not good for women, regardless of wether or not the “man” can provide. It is very psychologically damaging and any women who has been forced into it, will tell you this.
Sorry but your comments haven’t changed anything, other than to say you agree with Islam. So be it, but forcing women to cover up, is hardly respectful to women or men. It just makes muslim men sound weak.
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